There is much written on the Internet these days about people. In some ways I don’t like it because anyone can say anything about any person in total anonymity, even if that person is in public ministry. If authors of such comments get their facts wrong, it’s nothing to them. No big deal. They are “anonymous,” and they can just move on. But when it’s about someone else, if a person’s very livelihood and ministry is threatened, shouldn’t we count the cost before we spout off? Would we treat our pastor in the same way? What if these rouge authors are wrong and people take something they say seriously and it injures or smears a ministry? Reckless behavior like this is nothing more than an misguided attack on the integrity of others and far from the love of God that is described in 1 Cor. 13. Public ministries literally have a targets on their backs these days and particularly with this group of cloaked, veneer Christians.
Oddly, I spend time occasionally dredging these waters to see what’s out there swimming at the bottom. I seem to have a compulsion to contend for the faith (Jude 1:3) in defense of those whom I know are honest, lovers or Jesus no matter what people say.
So recently, when I found a site critical of a word given by Graham Cooke, naturally, I took the bait. Here’s the comment that I read:
In the prophetic word that Graham Cooke gave to the ministry, he kept telling them how they were going to be elevated over other believers.
For instance he said this: “…a word I believe has been spoken over (the ministry) from Heaven and the church must hear it. It’s a kingdom word. It can only be heard, understood and acted upon by apostolic personnel–people who really understand the nature of the kingdom and what the kingdom is. See, there are church people and there are kingdom people. And there are churches that are kingdom communities and there are churches that cannot even spell kingdom.”
To me, this is a form of elitism…elevating one group of believers over another, and I do not believe it is scriptural.
I think you’ll find that many of us that had been involved in churches and other organizations that were part of these false movements are struggling as we come out. It’s very hard to leave behind people you love, and I know that I’ve too longed for things to go back the way they used to be. Websites like this help, because you learn that you are not alone. May God bless you as you continue to seek Him and His truth.
Hello all. New subscriber here. Forgive the lengthy reply but there is much said in this thread that I just believe is false.
As someone who has heard just about everything that Graham has taught or written, I encourage you all to do the same before you judge him. Nothing that Graham teachers is unbiblical. Sadly, much that I see on this thread misses the heart of God.
Few teachers in my 30+ years as a believer have ever come along and made my spirit dance like it does when Graham teachers. His intimacy is unparalleled as far as I am concerned. There is no mistaking his truly profound insights. Not even Hank Hanagraff has ventured into those deep waters, and wisely so.
If you do not understand your potential and inheritance in Christ as a believer of Jesus, if you don’t have the kind of faith that moves mountains, you may unknowingly misconstrue the teachings of Graham Cooke and the present-future message that is so pervasive in his philosophy. His words do not suggest that anyone is better than another, but that the kind of calling on them is one that more typical of those who spend time in the secret places of God and is reserved for those who built up their intimacy in the Father. How do I know that, because this is the language of my spirit as well. For 1 Cor. 2:10-13 reads, “The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man’s spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us. This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.”
When you listen to Graham, you will hear him speak to the potential in Christ for every believer. And at the same time, if you do not spend enough time listening to Graham, you wouldn’t know how much he speaks about being last, giving up your pride, waiting on God before you jump into things, trusting the Lord, taking your lumps and learning from your trials instead of wanting to be delivered from them, and so forth.
You all know as well as I do that as we go deeper with God, he reveals more to us about his nature and will to us. Well this word speaks to that. More to the point, he’s speaking to leaders and pioneers who will go first into something that others will follow.
Concerning the word, instead of majoring in the minors here, let’s discuss if it’s true.
- Graham says that for anyone to get this word, it takes someone who really understands the nature of God and what things are like in the kingdom. OK, what’s wrong with that? If you read the scripture from 1 Cor. 2 above, clearly that’s what it says.
- Graham says there are kingdom people who view things through the prism of what things are like in the Kingdom and teach that what is bound in heaven is bound on earth, and what is loosed in heaven is loosed on earth. Again, I’m missing the issue here? It seems to me that there are differing levels of faith in the church and those with a lot faith, will believe God can do all things and those without, probably won’t.
- He says there are churches who are kingdom communities. This seems to suggest that there are people who operate in the proper context of community and are people who actually pray for others instead of just saying they will.
- He says there are churches who can’t spell “kingdom,” meaning the concept is completely lost on them. They are likely, very religious but have no power, no miracles, no true love for the Father and others.
So what bugs you? That Graham is saying what everyone is thinking?
Consider that in 1 Cor: 2:14 it says “But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised.”
I don’t know about you, but I see variations of this in the church too. People are moving in stages throughout their lives. They first become Christians but they are babes, mere children nursing on the mother’s milk of God. Then they begin a journey with God where their faith (hopefully) begins to grow, and then later in maturity they should begin to move with power in prayer and in ministry.
Paul teaches in Hebrews 5 about these levels of faith and belief, “We have much to say about this, but it is hard to explain because you are slow to learn. In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God’s word all over again. You need milk, not solid food! Anyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness. But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil.”
So after reading this, I come to different conclusions than you do.
1. This word is not elitist nor is the spirit behind it anything like it. The spirit testifies to Jesus and to his calling on someone to be something big, HUGE in fact, and much bigger than they are today. Well, I say, praise God for that! Don’t we need more people to reach their potential in Christ?
2. If you read Ephesians 2:19-20, Apostles and Prophets are the leaders that the Bible says the church should be built upon. That’s a first place position, right? The scripture reads: “Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and aliens, but fellow citizens with God’s people and members of God’s household, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone.”
Because the bible says all this, does that make the bible and God elitist?
3. 1 Cor. 12:28 says “And in the church God has appointed first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then workers of miracles, also those having gifts of healing, those able to help others, those with gifts of administration, and those speaking in different kinds of tongues.”
Again, there are leaders and their followers in the kingdom of God. We need both. The fact that someone has a huge calling on their life has absolutely nothing to do with us and our calling with God. I trust the Lord, that he will be faithful to you like he said he would, and that he will give you the desire of your heart as well, whether that is as a leader or follower. No matter what, it will make you happy because it is the desire of YOUR heart.
Therefore, I have no such inhibition about this word from Graham Cooke. To me, this energy would be better spent if put into our experience and personal walks with God.
Renae, I am sorry you have been hurt by past movements. But that doesn’t mean that Graham is false prophet because you don’t understand the meanings and context behind his words. I understand that some of his teachings are not elementary and complex in nature, just as Paul said they would be. Before we pass judgment on someone we should first spend far more time investigating his teachings like the Bereans did, who searched the scriptures daily to see if what Paul was saying was true (Acts 17).
A kingdom mentality is one that truly missing in the church today. We have lots of religion, but few kingdom believers with “mountain moving faith.” Where is the power in the church today? Did God say he was done with miracles a while ago and we all missed it? No, he didn’t. We should all believe that we CAN (not just say that we can), but that we CAN do ALL things in Christ according to his purposes and will.
Bless you, Renae, and I WILL pray that you soon discover the same awesome, loving, personal, powerful living and relational God that Graham and I know!